OK......LOL..........that store apparently isn't. But St Pete FL, Lakeland FL sure are. Scottsdale AZ is tucked away on a side street, and the only one I can think of sticking out on a freeway is San Antonio TX (Boehrn TX ) and El Paso in a seedy part of the interstate. Point is, most are well out of the way compared to the competition. The franchise fee is indeed 500K. 250K is what they want in sustainable assets. People read this wrong all the time. But check with someone who bought an Indian franchise. No idea if any lesser monies are paid by former Vic dealers converting over, ect. I spent too many years in dealer placement/distress at HD and know dealers of HD that wanted to go that route but costs were staggering. I know some families that are very heavy hitters here in AZ and in FL especially and Polaris scares them off. These are very entrenched 3rd and 4th generations that are not allergic to money. Like the Ferman Group since 1903. They probably sell a good third of all the HDs in FL now. Always looking for more $$$. Money to be reasonably returned. I'm telling you. Read the F and Q sections about getting an Indian store. Just like on another forum someone swore up and down that the little Indian store in Scottsdale AZ was the biggest in the southwest as it claimed it on the website the store has. So we checked. Sure enough it said 'biggest Indian/Royal Enfield store in the Southwest'. Well, no shit. Really? But again, nobody reads into this. Thats like me saying I have the biggest Indian collection of motorcycles on Crystal Sky Drive in Sedona !Geez...............look at some of these Indian stores around. Baton Rouge, the one in LA by the airport that closed now, Huntsville AL...........all holes in the wall. So why so? Franchise fee'd out? No money for location? No vetting by Indian?I do not know what the HD store in Honolulu looks like now. They used to be dumps. Seriously. In Waipahu on Farrington by the Coronet store? Great cross over clientele, huh? And Pacific was hidden somewhat by the airport too. But drive across I - 10 or I -40 to FL or anywhere. What do you see? Ford stores, GM stores, Toyota, and HD. Couple Indian places. But HD peppered everywhere. Maybe Polaris should gear their franchise fees like HD does. Hmmmm? But being exclusive seems to be the key. Maybe too exclusive. LOLI guess I admit that corporate HD ruined me on numbers and profit. Bear with me. If I were getting an Indian franchise you can bet the farm it would be on a major intersection or freeway exit lighted up. I am not money shy and would push painted Iowa iron all day long out the door. Just want to make sure everyone around saw it. Not be tucked away and make searching GOOGLE the means to find me. Thats all. LOL
Ahhhh..............you better check. Its 500K up front plus the building and whatever PLUS the fender and fireplace scenario. You may be confused with Victory franchise fees. indian is 500K all day long no matter where. Some people have tried to play 'lets make a deal' with Polaris and got nowhere. There are NO Indian stores in money rich Sarasota FL, Naples FL ( largest Cadillac store E of the Mississippi )........Tampa FL...........and ONE store in LA with 19 million people. Why? The start up is heavy and people are hesitant on Indian future but are becoming a little more relaxed there as the stats show growth.http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/become-a-dealerIndian wants 250K in liquid assets to even get the ball going. In other words, no friends at banks to OK a 500K business loan for a franchise fee. You have to have some clout behind you because if you go sideways, you will be hurt also. Not just the Indian/Polaris goodwill.Those liquid assets mean you are somewhat substantial in Indians eyes. I can see that. Now if you think 250K mark is the magic number than I suggest a Subway franchise that used to be much cheaper. Or a Papa Johns. That will get you the equipment and franchise rights. Now the building.So do homework first before the BS jab.
Apparently Indian doesn't realize they charge a franchise fee.From the "Become a dealer" at indianmotorcycle.com".DOES INDIAN MOTORCYCLE CHARGE A FRANCHISE FEE?Indian Motorcycle does not charge a franchise fee. All of our dealers are independent business owners. Each dealer operates under an agreement to retail and service Indian Motorcycle products.Some people go to great lengths to explain why they're not wrong...when they are.
Reads what a franchise fee is. Its a royalty paid ( most monthly ) BACK to tcorporate on what is sold that month. McDonalds used to be 8% EVERY month but it is hoigher now and that is a franchise fee. Indian states that there are NO corporate stores and each dealer is an independent owner. Thats all true. Now to get the Indian name one must buy the franchise rights to an exclusive territory and that is 500K with more money going into a building and parts and the srt - up Indian wants. Like the fireplace, the repro oil cans, the front fender on a stand, ect. But no franchise fees after that. What you make, you make. Some here better stick to their WalMart jobs...........LOLIf Indian charged NO franchise rights fee............then there would be dealers all over LA instead of ONE and many places would be a block away from each other. Instead, by purchasing an Indian franchise ( and not talking fee's monthly or quarterly ) one can reasonably be protected within a certain mileage area ( distance ) from the other stores. This is done by population and/or distance or a combination. Very easy to understand. Ford, Toyota, Chevy, Nissan, Mercedes, ect., all do not charge franchise fees. Fast food places usually do. But you have to BUY the franchise right.............not a franchise fee...........to get started.This fee along with not knowing where Polaris is headed ( just yet ) is why there is hesitation in buying these franchises. In many areas. HD rights are based on location and PRIOR HD dealer relations. There is no set price like Indian. One HD store, for example Daytona FL, may be a $1M franchise right buy while another rural area maybe 100K or even way less if an established dealer with great HD relations took it over. Lots of politics. Indian is cut and dried. Ask your dealer principal, not the sales manager or the lot porter, what he paid for his store. Better be sitting down when he does. No wonder a 500 mile inspection/oil change is so friggen high.
Quote from: bwana6 on November 14, 2017, 11:28:42 pmReads what a franchise fee is. Its a royalty paid ( most monthly ) BACK to tcorporate on what is sold that month. McDonalds used to be 8% EVERY month but it is hoigher now and that is a franchise fee. Indian states that there are NO corporate stores and each dealer is an independent owner. Thats all true. Now to get the Indian name one must buy the franchise rights to an exclusive territory and that is 500K with more money going into a building and parts and the srt - up Indian wants. Like the fireplace, the repro oil cans, the front fender on a stand, ect. But no franchise fees after that. What you make, you make. Some here better stick to their WalMart jobs...........LOLIf Indian charged NO franchise rights fee............then there would be dealers all over LA instead of ONE and many places would be a block away from each other. Instead, by purchasing an Indian franchise ( and not talking fee's monthly or quarterly ) one can reasonably be protected within a certain mileage area ( distance ) from the other stores. This is done by population and/or distance or a combination. Very easy to understand. Ford, Toyota, Chevy, Nissan, Mercedes, ect., all do not charge franchise fees. Fast food places usually do. But you have to BUY the franchise right.............not a franchise fee...........to get started.This fee along with not knowing where Polaris is headed ( just yet ) is why there is hesitation in buying these franchises. In many areas. HD rights are based on location and PRIOR HD dealer relations. There is no set price like Indian. One HD store, for example Daytona FL, may be a $1M franchise right buy while another rural area maybe 100K or even way less if an established dealer with great HD relations took it over. Lots of politics. Indian is cut and dried. Ask your dealer principal, not the sales manager or the lot porter, what he paid for his store. Better be sitting down when he does. No wonder a 500 mile inspection/oil change is so friggen high.Okay you're right and Indian is wrong. http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/become-a-dealerYou go to great lengths to try and convince people you're some kind of business guru. My guess is you've never signed the front of a paycheck and you're just another Internet BS artist.
Quote from: ThreeChiefs on November 17, 2017, 02:09:48 pmQuote from: bwana6 on November 14, 2017, 11:28:42 pmReads what a franchise fee is. Its a royalty paid ( most monthly ) BACK to tcorporate on what is sold that month. McDonalds used to be 8% EVERY month but it is hoigher now and that is a franchise fee. Indian states that there are NO corporate stores and each dealer is an independent owner. Thats all true. Now to get the Indian name one must buy the franchise rights to an exclusive territory and that is 500K with more money going into a building and parts and the srt - up Indian wants. Like the fireplace, the repro oil cans, the front fender on a stand, ect. But no franchise fees after that. What you make, you make. Some here better stick to their WalMart jobs...........LOLIf Indian charged NO franchise rights fee............then there would be dealers all over LA instead of ONE and many places would be a block away from each other. Instead, by purchasing an Indian franchise ( and not talking fee's monthly or quarterly ) one can reasonably be protected within a certain mileage area ( distance ) from the other stores. This is done by population and/or distance or a combination. Very easy to understand. Ford, Toyota, Chevy, Nissan, Mercedes, ect., all do not charge franchise fees. Fast food places usually do. But you have to BUY the franchise right.............not a franchise fee...........to get started.This fee along with not knowing where Polaris is headed ( just yet ) is why there is hesitation in buying these franchises. In many areas. HD rights are based on location and PRIOR HD dealer relations. There is no set price like Indian. One HD store, for example Daytona FL, may be a $1M franchise right buy while another rural area maybe 100K or even way less if an established dealer with great HD relations took it over. Lots of politics. Indian is cut and dried. Ask your dealer principal, not the sales manager or the lot porter, what he paid for his store. Better be sitting down when he does. No wonder a 500 mile inspection/oil change is so friggen high.Okay you're right and Indian is wrong. http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/become-a-dealerYou go to great lengths to try and convince people you're some kind of business guru. My guess is you've never signed the front of a paycheck and you're just another Internet BS artist.He got banned and removed from the other major Indian Forum, wonder why ?>---------> >---------> >--------->Live Free - Ride Hard - Die Well