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Title: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 15, 2013, 09:00:24 AM
Hello,
A few Indian enthusiasts were excited enough about the new Indian that we bought early so we could get one of the first 1901 bikes off the line, as the first 1901 are "badged."
So, after a short poll, I've decided to start a 1901 club, which will consist of the first 1901, 2014 Indian motorcycle owners.  So far, I've had about 45 responses on thevog.net, and growing.  I know it's "pie in the sky," but it would be nice to get all 1901 owners  :)
If interested, please respond to this post with the color, model, number, city-state-country of your new scooter and how you can be contacted; or, you can respond on thevog.net, general Indian forum, "How about a 1901 Club."
Motor-On
Chieftan1400
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Tin Whiskers on November 15, 2013, 09:07:39 AM
I am listed with the IIRA.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Spur on November 15, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
Don't really like thevog.net.  Too many jealous Vic owners over there. This site is much better for reasonable discussion.  Don't really want to be involved too much with vog.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: IndianEdT on November 15, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
red & tan, Vintage #771, Charlotte NC, this forum
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 15, 2013, 09:35:40 AM
thevog.net has been around since 2008 and, since I own 2 XC's, was my first site.  Andy seems to have done a good site, and he opened the door for a lot of Polaris Indian discussions with lots of good information.  The only way I discovered this site is from a vog.net member.  Now that I have my new Chieftan, this is my new home for Indians....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: IndianEdT on November 15, 2013, 09:37:09 AM
welcome aboard!
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Spur on November 15, 2013, 09:47:48 AM
I have no problem with Victory bikes and will probably have one some day. It just seems the Vic guys over at vog feel kind of left out right now.  Kind of like the the first child syndrome after the second is born and getting all the attention.  Since  both are made at same place by polaris the Vic history could offer many insights.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 15, 2013, 10:08:40 AM
I personally haven't really felt that, although I can understand some of their frustration, because the have a GREAT bike with piss poor Polaris support.
However, I certainly understand what you mean from the few "Victory" rides I've been...definitely a different set of folks on the rides...at lease from my HOG days :o
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: gibbster on November 15, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
Red Chieftain, #290, Picayune, Mississippi, this forum.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 15, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Blue Chieftain #1698. Lincoln University, PA

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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Tonto on November 15, 2013, 04:35:41 PM
Black Chieftain #682

I have to agree with Spur's reply.  Seems like there are a few Vic owners that are feeling like 'second string'.  I don't get it.   I've owned 2 Vics and loved them both.  Let's stick together....... strength in numbers.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 15, 2013, 07:10:05 PM
Red Chieftain #1233 Plympton,Ma
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 15, 2013, 11:40:59 PM
I am just curious, what does membership on these registries actually get you?  I have been riding for a while now and this isn't the first time I have seen this come up, just not sure of the benefits.

If its really just about creating a member list, we can do that here if there is a real need.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Vintage Rider on November 15, 2013, 11:43:44 PM
#1563 Indian Red Vintage
Gillette, NJ
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Hey Yu on November 16, 2013, 12:09:33 AM
thevog.net has been around since 2008 and, since I own 2 XC's, was my first site.  Andy seems to have done a good site, and he opened the door for a lot of Polaris Indian discussions with lots of good information.  The only way I discovered this site is from a vog.net member.  Now that I have my new Chieftan, this is my new home for Indians....

Have you considered Indian Motorcycle Community?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 16, 2013, 06:43:12 AM
After seeing the BobbyG "review" of the chieftain on the vognet channel, I do think I could take it seriously and I don't really need another forum to watch.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chahn on November 16, 2013, 10:46:57 AM
#466 Blue Chieftain
Glendale, AZ
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Nascen on November 16, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
#1594 Black Chief Vintage
Washingtonville,  NY
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: NOD on November 16, 2013, 10:59:29 PM
# 262 Chesnee, South Carolina
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: spider on November 17, 2013, 09:31:50 AM
After seeing the BobbyG "review" of the chieftain on the vognet channel, I do think I could take it seriously and I don't really need another forum to watch.

Yes his review was pretty bad, especially since he didn't even test ride one.

BobbyG does a few " travelogs " on the VOG that are really entertaining, he rides his motorcycles, I've ridden with him and he is a down to earth guy who doesn't hold back his feelings that's for sure.

Sorry, almost forgot Black Vintage #718 ;D

I'm still on a couple of Vic sites due to the fact that I rode a Vic for 5 years but I do spend more time now on the Indian sites.
I'm really looking forward to riding with other Indian owners soon.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Harbourblue on November 17, 2013, 06:27:35 PM
Black Chieftain #1187, Hershey, PA.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on November 18, 2013, 12:53:06 AM
I am just curious, what does membership on these registries actually get you?  I have been riding for a while now and this isn't the first time I have seen this come up, just not sure of the benefits.

If its really just about creating a member list, we can do that here if there is a real need.  Thoughts?

Chieftan1400,
Can you please address MotoRace's questions?  I will add myself to this list once these questions are answered.  A lot of us feel like this site is our home.

Thanks,
Mikey
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 18, 2013, 02:47:48 PM
How about a "Original 1901" patch?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 18, 2013, 05:20:56 PM
How about a "Original 1901" patch?



I like the idea of a 1901 patch with a individual number of your bike.

INDIAN 1901

    #1233
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 18, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
I wonder how the Springfield guys would find such a patch LOL
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: FastFred450 on November 19, 2013, 01:00:30 PM
+1 for the idea of the numbered patch.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: gibbster on November 19, 2013, 03:04:28 PM
Ditto on the numbered 1901 patch for me also.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 20, 2013, 08:47:41 AM
2014 Indian Chief Vintage - Indian Red - Number 933
Northern NJ
Current Victory Vision rider.

I'm on board with being in the 1901 club!  8)

I wouldn't be surprised if Indian has their own plans for the 1,901 of us in the future.  :D
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 2Cool on November 21, 2013, 02:59:20 AM
Red Chief Classic #172
Sarasota Florida
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 21, 2013, 09:50:18 AM
For 5 bucks we can make our own patch.Lets see if we can share some common lingo and create one.What should it say?

http://www.etsy.com/listing/113365707/custom-embroidered-name-patch-motorcycle
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 802Flier on November 21, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
I put my number up on the Vog too.  Black Vintage #700. 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 802Flier on November 21, 2013, 11:26:21 AM
Would it be possible to re-create the bike badge as a patch, or would that be a copyright infringement?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 03:47:40 PM
After seeing the BobbyG "review" of the chieftain on the vognet channel, I do think I could take it seriously and I don't really need another forum to watch.

Yes his review was pretty bad, especially since he didn't even test ride one.

BobbyG does a few " travelogs " on the VOG that are really entertaining, he rides his motorcycles, I've ridden with him and he is a down to earth guy who doesn't hold back his feelings that's for sure.

Sorry, almost forgot Black Vintage #718 ;D

I'm still on a couple of Vic sites due to the fact that I rode a Vic for 5 years but I do spend more time now on the Indian sites.
I'm really looking forward to riding with other Indian owners soon.
Too funny Spider...I already have you from thevog.net website...thanks again for putting your name in the club....Chieftan1400 (Bill)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 03:50:11 PM
How about a "Original 1901" patch?
In the works....will post several from you to choose from....or, welcome your own ideas...Thanks...Chieftan1400 (Bill)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
I put my number up on the Vog too.  Black Vintage #700.
Got you covered.  I'm the same guy.  Just reaching out to try and find ALL 1901 owners.  This site was recommended by another Vog member.  Thanks...Chieftan1400 (Bill)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 03:57:20 PM
Would it be possible to re-create the bike badge as a patch, or would that be a copyright infringement?
Probably wouldn't be able to duplicate it without permission from Polaris.  But, you could make it similar.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 05:00:21 PM
Now, to respond to MotoRace and Groovechampion....MotoRace poses a good question...is 1901 a Club or a Registry and, if it's a club, what are the benefits of being a member, if any.  After only one week of effort trying to gauge an interest in the idea of a 1901 Club, I'm not sure I can give a complete or even satisfactory answer to that question...yet...because most of the answer depends on the degree of interest among the new Indian Riders.  So far, I've had about 50 "1901" owners give me their names.  But, a list of names is far from being a "Club."  While I will attempt to consolidate and help guide the effort, where it goes from here is largely up to the new members.  Chieftan1400, in and of myself, doesn't make a CLUB, although I am willing to do the initial legwork to get things going.
So, let me just say this:  When I asked the question about a 1901 Club, first on thevog.net, and then on this website, I had a RIDERS club in mind, not an organization of "pen pals."  If that is the level of interest, I probably won't pursue the idea much further.  However, if I can gather a bunch of riders that are willing to invest themselves into forming the newest motorcycle club with the oldest history, I'd like to be part of that great effort.  Will there be benefits, yes.  Can I tell you what they will be today, no.  After only one week, it's fair to say that this is a work in progress.  BUT, I would like to see the 1901 Club be as prevalent as HOG or any of a number of other nationally recognized motorcycle riding clubs in America.  As far as I'm concerned, INDIAN deserves it and as a new Indian owner and an old-time rider, I'd like to try to make it happen.
Another consideration is, as asked by another member, how about the Indian "community."  That's tougher to answer because it is a MUCH larger effort to address the needs of the entire Indian community, although it could be much easier in some ways because of an existing and seasoned Indian population.  While I don't want to exclude any Indian rider, old or new, I was simply trying to focus my efforts only on those 1901 (excluding dealer numbers) that took a "leap of faith" with Polaris on the new Indian.  However, I'd certainly be interested in your views on this particular issue.
Regarding Groovechampion's comment about feeling like this website is his home, the 1901 Club IS NOT in competition with the chiefmotorcycleforum, but rather, in partnership.  In fact, I've been in communication with one of the "forum" administrators about partnering the 1901 Club with the chiefmotorcycleforum.com, so as not to duplicate effort and to consolidate information of interest to Indian riders.  We have been discussing how to make that happens even as I type this post.
I've been riding since the '60's, but really have limited "club" experience.  But I'm sure there are l lot of you old "salts" out there now riding Indians that may have a wealth of "club" experience.  Your recommendations and participation would be invaluable....please make yourselves known.
So, Groovechampion, or any other rider reading this post, if you'd like to be part of the effort, I welcome you.  If not, ride safe and ride long and we'll meet someday where the road meets the sunset....Chieftan1400
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 21, 2013, 05:56:18 PM
There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen, and there are people who wonder what happened.

Chieftain1400
You seem to me as a person who makes things happen :)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 21, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
Chieftain, have you considered using FaceBook to help promote the 1901 Club?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 21, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
Chieftain, have you considered using FaceBook to help promote the 1901 Club?
Odd as it might seem, I've tried to do facebook a number of times and ultimately closed my account because people were too meddlesome and I didn't like most of what I read....However, it might be different if I opened it under a different venue...could be worth a try...
Thanks for the suggestion....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: RedChieftain on November 21, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen, and there are people who wonder what happened.

Chieftain1400
You seem to me as a person who makes things happen :)

Spot on Jack, both on the types of people and on 1400.  Kudos 1400.  I like your vision and willingness to make it happen.  Very cool.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: NOD on November 21, 2013, 09:29:17 PM
I'm in #262 black vintage the few the proud
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on November 22, 2013, 12:27:32 AM
Chieftain1400 I am satisfied with your response.  Well done  sir.  I will gladly participate mainly because your mustache is the mightiest I have ever seen.

Black Chieftain #486
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: IndianEdT on November 22, 2013, 07:36:11 AM
1400, I am a little confused, is this going to be a riders club for the 1901 who took the "leap of faith" which is a rather small group fairly well dispersed or for all riders and "be as prevalent as HOG"?  Your narrative seems to suggest both.  Just wondering but I would want to be a part of either scenario though the IIRA does not seem to generate enough interest to compete with HOG and this would be a new group basically competing with both
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 22, 2013, 08:02:11 AM
I have no stake in the outcome of this discussion, but IMHO if you're going to make a 1901 club it should relate to the 1,901 of us that were the first 2014 Indian buyers.

My dealer may have 50 or so riders in that category which is certainly enough for a local club even if less than half choose to participate.

I also think that if the IIRA becomes more active in recruiting and retaining members they have a pretty good interest in making their organization work.

It will also be interesting to see if Indian corporate plans to do anything with a club for the 1,901 original owners, or for all Indian riders in general.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 22, 2013, 09:33:33 AM
I applaud Chieftain1400 for taking the initiative and to be willing to do the work necessary to start something, and while I believe that eventually there should be a club with the same scope and size as HOG for the riders and the company I'm not sure that the name 1901 club would be the best choice.

When I suggested a 1901 patch I was thinking about a simple patch just stating "Original 1901" which would show that you were one of the people that took the initial leap of faith with the new Indian. The patch could be worn in addition to any club that eventually becomes "the Indian" club. If we also include the number of your bike it would help prevent taggers on from producing counterfeit patches later on. Thoughts?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 22, 2013, 09:47:22 AM
My thoughts exactly.The outside thread color can show the color bike you purchased.The wording,which is yet to be determined in my opinion must include you're number.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 22, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
My thoughts exactly.The outside thread color can show the color bike you purchased.The wording,which is yet to be determined in my opinion must include you're number.

I'm no expert but if you make patches with individual bike color and number it might get pricey.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 22, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
A quick search gets custom patches in your color and wording of choice for 5 dollars.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/157620993/custom-saying-embroidered-patch-choose?ref=sr_gallery_18&ga_search_query=Custom+patch&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_search_type=all
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: IndianEdT on November 22, 2013, 10:51:17 AM
welcome to the digital age!  Things like this custom patch would have been quite expensive several years ago because someone would have to program in all parameters, now the customer does this and it is all done electronically at much lower cost
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 22, 2013, 11:05:25 AM
Nice find Jack.
How would we standarize what the patch would say? "First 1,901" with the number of our Indian underneath, and bike color for the thread?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 22, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
Another version at 5 dollars a patch

http://www.etsy.com/listing/113365707/custom-embroidered-name-patch-motorcycle?ref=sr_gallery_41&ga_search_query=patch&ga_page=7&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 22, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
Maybe we should be thinking bigger.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/115835436/custom-rocker-patch-set?ref=sr_gallery_41&ga_search_query=patch&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 22, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
Just a couple of ideas to start out with, could color the bike number same as your bike.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 22, 2013, 12:04:08 PM
Maybe we should be thinking bigger.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/115835436/custom-rocker-patch-set?ref=sr_gallery_41&ga_search_query=patch&ga_page=4&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery

A small shoulder rocker for Original 1900 would work but unless you want to have trouble with 1% clubs don't have a territory.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 22, 2013, 02:17:55 PM
OK 1901 Club members, now it's time to get serious....I would like to approach Indian about hosting a 1st Anniversary Motorcycle Rally to commemorate the debute of the new Indian motorcycles, sponsored by the 1901 Motorcycle Riders Club....This would be a massive undertaking and would put the 1901 Club on the map, but I can't't even think about approaching Indian formally without knowing how many of our new members are interested in participating in the production AND making the ride.....I would need Captains that would be willing to dedicate  a lot of time to managing each aspect of the rally organization process.  I'd especially need to know if there's anyone in the Club that has organized a rally before because there's no substitue for experience...it can help us avoid a miriad of pitfalls.

Clearly there would be a ton of details to work out, but I can envision a Club Captain leading riders from each of the 4 regions: north from Canada, south from Florida, east from New Your, and west from California...all converging on the rally at Spirit Lake....or whereever Indian might agrees to host it...

Pie-in-the-Sky?  Maybe, but you don't know what you can do until you try....If Indian isn't interested, we can still sponsor our own Indian Anniversary rally....sponsored by 1901 Motorcycle Riders club, but attended by all Indian ridiers, old and new.

Please let me know your level of interest and interest in being a Captain...If you would like to have a private discussion about this initiative, you can email me at bill8053@live.com and we can go from there....

I've made initial informal contact with Indian, but won't be able to make a firm proposal for them until I hear from Club members....

Thanks...Chieftan1400
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 22, 2013, 10:40:53 PM
Looks like I lost you guys with that last post :)  I did get some personal feedback from a couple of members and I wanted to share their thoughts and my response with you:

I had an input from another member that cautioned that we <don't want to get the cart before the horse by talking prematurely to Polaris, because we really aren't a club yet.  We want to have most of the 1901 owners on board first>

I'd like to address his comments because many of you may share his concerns. He's right on most of his points.  We really aren't a "club" yet, we are just a list of Indian motorcycle owners.  To become a club, there is a process that needs to take place that establishes some sort of structure, policy, philosophy, goals, missions, etc.  If that doesn't take place, then we really aren't any more than a group of riders who's common link is owning one of the first 1901 Indians produced by Polaris. If that's what you want, then that's OK with me and I'll throttle back.

So far, we have about 60 owners that seem to have expressed a desire to be more than that.  If that's true, then we have no choice but to go through the organizational process. AND, that won't be easy as we're scattered across North America and Great Britain.  But, thanks to technology, it is certainly very practical to go through the formation process over the internet, etc., and then consummate our efforts at our first rally.

It's important to point out that, although I'd like to make an Anniversary Rally happen, I've only had preliminary discussions with Indian to establish links of communication in case we end up, as a club, making a formal proposal.  I haven't made any formal or informal proposals or commitments to any person of authority within the Indian Corporate Structure.

However, I don't think we have the luxury or even the necessity to get most of the 1901 owners on board, because whether the club consists of 60 or 1901 riders, we are all still part of that unique group of Indian motorcycle riders.  Also, many of the "badged" bikes are actually being held by dealerships for demo and display purposes.  I don't know how many Indian dealers there are, but of the one's I've personally visited in Arizona and Florida, they ALL had at least 2 badged bikes that they couldn't sell, for now.  So, we really don't even know how many actual 1901 owners there are today. 

How many members does it take to make a viable club?  I think 60 is a great start.  Other major clubs have started with much smaller numbers and eventually grew into national clubs with regional groups.  There has to be a beginning.  If we wait for the majority of 1901 owners, we will all lose interest or grow too old to ride :)

Lastly, like I said in my message, an Anniversary Rally hosted by Polaris might be "pie-in-the-sky,"  but it certainly doesn't hurt to pursue that idea and it gives the 1901 Riders a rallying point, our first objective, an effort that can bring us together as a club.  Worse case scenario, we can't get the club organized quick enough, Polaris says they're not interested, and we have our own rally.

The bottom line for a 1901 Indian Motorcycle Riders Club is YOUR bottom line.  If it happens, it will not be because of me, it will be because of you.  If all you want is an Indian Numbered patch and to have your name on a 1901 roster...I'm cool with that too....

Your thoughts and ideas are always welcome.  There is NO commander....NO dictator....this will be OUR club, or there will be no club.  As of this hour, I've only had 5 of the 60 "members" on board with taking the next step.  We'll see what tomorrow brings....

Ride Safe

Chiftan1400 (Bill)

Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on November 23, 2013, 09:24:05 AM
I'm in Bill.  I will take the red 1901 pill and see how far the rabbit hole goes.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 23, 2013, 09:53:38 AM
Was that the same Chieftain or a different Chieftain.Love the Matrix.
If we are truly considering a 1901 reunion why not at the birthplace Springfield Massachuettes.I talked to mike at Wagner Motorsports,he loved the idea.He told me about touring the place and Wagner would try and set up some kind of chuck wagon.

Count me in,I will help in any way I can.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: FastFred450 on November 23, 2013, 10:08:22 AM
Was that the same Chieftain or a different Chieftain.Love the Matrix.
If we are truly considering a 1901 reunion why not at the birthplace Springfield Massachuettes.I talked to mike at Wagner Motorsports,he loved the idea.He told me about touring the place and Wagner would try and set up some kind of chuck wagon.

Count me in,I will help in any way I can.
I love that idea. There is a Indian day there every year. It would be nice to do it at the same time.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: RedChieftain on November 23, 2013, 11:50:35 AM
Springfield, Ma. would not be a good place if you want to attract Indian riders from all over the country.  It would be like the Laconia Rally, 95% from within 500 miles, and most closer than that.  I've ridden there twice and it's all NH, MA., RI, NY, VT, and Ontario.  Sturgis, which is much more central, plates are from everywhere.  Iowa would be good, for example.   
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cowboy on November 23, 2013, 03:57:32 PM

Wow - so interesting to see so much interest and planning going on for a club that does not yet exist.  This must be a weird bunch - I like it!  Add me to the list:  Chief Classic, #1317, Blue, Honolulu, Hawaii, and I can be contacted through this forum.

Patches?  With badge number and color-coded threading?  I like it!

An anniversary ride?  I like it!  Personally, I vote (is this a democratically-run not-yet-formed club?) for organizing the ride to correspond to the date and location of next year's Sturgis event.  I am being totally selfish on this.  I am already planning on attending Sturgis next year as my final stop after first traveling from California up to the Arctic Circle through Canada.  It is not as stupid as it sounds and has been done before by other riders, although it is not for the timid.  It might be interesting to be the first to do it on a 1901, then glide into Sturgis on my way back to California.

Really, if this club gets off the ground, I can see Indian picking us up for full sponsorship (in similar fashion as Harley does for the HOG).  Is that good or bad?

Do we have a club handshake yet?

Richard
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: drifterdon on November 23, 2013, 06:21:18 PM
Hi all,
 
I have a Springfield Blue Chieftain #372. Purchased at Mom's in Foxboro, MA.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 23, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
I took Jacks suggestion for a patch company and had these two ideas designed, I've also asked for the round patch to have the lettering and numbers around the radius. The number and color of your bike will be in the middle. Thoughts?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 23, 2013, 06:36:49 PM
Just another brain fart, how about having the Thunderstroke engine behind the bike number in the center?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 23, 2013, 06:54:32 PM

Hi all,
 
I have a Springfield Blue Chieftain #372. Purchased at Mom's in Foxboro, MA.


I see you have the Sharktail exhaust.Addicting sound,isn't it!!
Congratulations on your new toy.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: drifterdon on November 23, 2013, 07:07:47 PM
Thank you, Jack. So glad I got the exhaust. My dealer played a trick on me and told me I would have to wait for the exhaust to come in and get it installed at a later date. Was pleasantly surprised when he drove it into the showroom for pick up with it already installed. Absolutely love the very deep but not overly loud rumble, truly enjoyable.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: IndianEdT on November 24, 2013, 07:08:22 AM
Just another brain fart, how about having the Thunderstroke engine behind the bike number in the center?

I thought about something like this as well but you may run into copyright issues unless you have Polaris permission which is possible I guess.  How about an arrowhead shape?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 24, 2013, 08:04:21 AM
Just another brain fart, how about having the Thunderstroke engine behind the bike number in the center?

I thought about something like this as well but you may run into copyright issues unless you have Polaris permission which is possible I guess.  How about an arrowhead shape?

The arrow head is a good idea too, I'm just throwing it out there for input from everyone. I'll post the design with the motor as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Buffalo on November 24, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: RIDE ON on November 24, 2013, 08:02:32 PM
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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cowboy on November 25, 2013, 01:07:52 AM
So, for a little fun, here is another idea for a badge.  I liked the other riders' ideas that the badge should be color-coded and contain the issue number of that owner's bike, and that it should be similar to Indian's other logos (although that would require permission from Polaris).  So, here are a couple of examples, with subtle issue numbers included.  Bill, I do not know the color of your bike, but you can get the idea... 

Should the badge also indicate the model (Classic, Vintage, Chieftain)?

Richard
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cobrafreak on November 25, 2013, 01:37:34 AM
#717 Black Vintage Chief. Sacramento CA
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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 25, 2013, 06:07:41 AM
I like what you guys are coming up with.In a perfect world I would like the number and model of the bike I purchased incorporated in a patch.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 25, 2013, 08:50:48 AM
Now we're getting some good Ideas from everyone, keep them coming. Here are the latest versions that the patch co. designed. The 1st one has 1901 over the engine with the bike number & color on the lower end, it's 3" in diameter. The 2nd version with the bike number & color on the motor but is 4" in diameter. Thoughts everyone? 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: FastFred450 on November 25, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
Hi all,
 
I have a Springfield Blue Chieftain #372. Purchased at Mom's in Foxboro, MA.
I seen your bike when I picked mine up. I think they where delivered together. Looks good and have fun!  8)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 26, 2013, 12:51:40 PM

Wow - so interesting to see so much interest and planning going on for a club that does not yet exist.  This must be a weird bunch - I like it!  Add me to the list:  Chief Classic, #1317, Blue, Honolulu, Hawaii, and I can be contacted through this forum.

Patches?  With badge number and color-coded threading?  I like it!

An anniversary ride?  I like it!  Personally, I vote (is this a democratically-run not-yet-formed club?) for organizing the ride to correspond to the date and location of next year's Sturgis event.  I am being totally selfish on this.  I am already planning on attending Sturgis next year as my final stop after first traveling from California up to the Arctic Circle through Canada.  It is not as stupid as it sounds and has been done before by other riders, although it is not for the timid.  It might be interesting to be the first to do it on a 1901, then glide into Sturgis on my way back to California.

Really, if this club gets off the ground, I can see Indian picking us up for full sponsorship (in similar fashion as Harley does for the HOG).  Is that good or bad?

Do we have a club handshake yet?

Richard
I like the patch....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Chieftan1400 on November 26, 2013, 12:55:18 PM
So, for a little fun, here is another idea for a badge.  I liked the other riders' ideas that the badge should be color-coded and contain the issue number of that owner's bike, and that it should be similar to Indian's other logos (although that would require permission from Polaris).  So, here are a couple of examples, with subtle issue numbers included.  Bill, I do not know the color of your bike, but you can get the idea... 

Should the badge also indicate the model (Classic, Vintage, Chieftain)?

Richard
Yes, think it should have model, and maybe fit 1901 in there somewhere...
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 26, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
All,

I understand the desire to have a 1901 club and would like it to be part of this site.  We will add a separate board for members that want to post information specific to 1901 club members if that is the desire.  We can even make it a private group that only members can view if that is the desire.   I will post a poll so the members can take a vote.  Two members have reached out to me regarding concern of a potential conflict of interest with the club and the already established forum.

Chieftan1400 and I have been going back and forth via email about integrating his "potential" club into this site, but from the context of the emails it seems he wants it to be very mcuh independent of the rest of the site, which requires a lot of programming and additional work on my part.   It also makes upgrades more difficult for simple things like security patches, which anyone who has been on here since the beginning knows, I apply right away.

I checked the website email address today and found that at least a few people replied to PM's from Chieftan1400 regarding the club instead of logging into the site and replying via PM.  What this means to me is that he has been privately PMing a lot of people recruiting them for this club, in private and never asked the site owners (Matt and I) first, which is just common etiquette.  That being said, I have asked him not to send anymore PMs and keep the discussion open on the site.

I will post more information shortly as I have to dial into a meeting for work.....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 2Cool on November 26, 2013, 03:41:59 PM
Listen, we're all Indian Riders.  I think that making distinctions between us and owners that buy later on might be a big mistake, kinda like making them 2nd class citizens.  I'm all for a patch if that's what everyone wants but remember, there will be only 1901 "Originals" scattered across the country.  If we had 10,000 members of this site we'd probably have an annual event showing of maybe a couple of hundred.  I don't believe at this point it's a good idea to segment and possibly alienate future members.  Think about it.  Just saying.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 26, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Listen, we're all Indian Riders.  I think that making distinctions between us and owners that buy later on might be a big mistake, kinda like making them 2nd class citizens.  I'm all for a patch if that's what everyone wants but remember, there will be only 1901 "Originals" scattered across the country.  If we had 10,000 members of this site we'd probably have an annual event showing of maybe a couple of hundred.  I don't believe at this point it's a good idea to segment and possibly alienate future members.  Think about it.  Just saying.

Good points.  8)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 26, 2013, 05:31:22 PM
Listen, we're all Indian Riders.  I think that making distinctions between us and owners that buy later on might be a big mistake, kinda like making them 2nd class citizens.  I'm all for a patch if that's what everyone wants but remember, there will be only 1901 "Originals" scattered across the country.  If we had 10,000 members of this site we'd probably have an annual event showing of maybe a couple of hundred.  I don't believe at this point it's a good idea to segment and possibly alienate future members.  Think about it.  Just saying.

I tend to agree.  We started this site for a few reasons...one because I love motorcycles (I've always had a love-affair with Indian and their history), two I had been contemplating getting one of the new bikes (not in the cards for me right now) and three there was a unfulfilled niche to have a forum specific to the new launch of bikes.  I know there are already sites out there, but they were specific to all Polaris bikes, older Indians, etc.

I am all for the club if someone wants to start it, but it feels like it is something that is going to compete directly with this site.  I offered to include it as part of the forum, but the common theme has been independence which is counter-intuitive to this site and I agree with you point of not segmenting users if possible.  That being said, I am up for putting to vote...the members make this site and I think it should be up to the group as a whole to decide how this should be handled.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Hey Yu on November 26, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Listen, we're all Indian Riders.  I think that making distinctions between us and owners that buy later on might be a big mistake, kinda like making them 2nd class citizens.  I'm all for a patch if that's what everyone wants but remember, there will be only 1901 "Originals" scattered across the country.  If we had 10,000 members of this site we'd probably have an annual event showing of maybe a couple of hundred.  I don't believe at this point it's a good idea to segment and possibly alienate future members.  Think about it.  Just saying.

I tend to agree.  We started this site for a few reasons...one because I love motorcycles (I've always had a love-affair with Indian and their history), two I had been contemplating getting one of the new bikes (not in the cards for me right now) and three there was a unfulfilled niche to have a forum specific to the new launch of bikes.  I know there are already sites out there, but they were specific to all Polaris bikes, older Indians, etc.

I am all for the club if someone wants to start it, but it feels like it is something that is going to compete directly with this site.  I offered to include it as part of the forum, but the common theme has been independence which is counter-intuitive to this site and I agree with you point of not segmenting users if possible.  That being said, I am up for putting to vote...the members make this site and I think it should be up to the group as a whole to decide how this should be handled.
And some members are not in North America, and have absolutely no chance of being in the 1901. Need to join a club, join IIRA.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 26, 2013, 06:14:32 PM
And some members are not in North America, and have absolutely no chance of being in the 1901. Need to join a club, join IIRA.

A very good point sir...
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 26, 2013, 06:15:52 PM
FYI, there have been some heated discussions coming out of this thread so if anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to PM me and I will give you my cell phone number so we can chat.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 26, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
Listen, we're all Indian Riders.  I think that making distinctions between us and owners that buy later on might be a big mistake, kinda like making them 2nd class citizens.  I'm all for a patch if that's what everyone wants but remember, there will be only 1901 "Originals" scattered across the country.  If we had 10,000 members of this site we'd probably have an annual event showing of maybe a couple of hundred.  I don't believe at this point it's a good idea to segment and possibly alienate future members.  Think about it.  Just saying.


When I first suggested a 1901 patch it was my thought to have a patch the would signify that you were one of the first to take the leap of faith in the new Indians.
Although I appreciate the work Chieftan1400 has done trying to create a club I don't agree with the name "1901 Club" because the name could segregate us from the entire Indian community.

I think there is a definite need for a new Indian club that focuses on the new Indian because the entire bike is new and the issues and needs of the new Indian owners are completely different from those of the Vintage bike owners.
It is still early and Indian's own Owners Site has not gone live at this point, so we don't know what Indian's plans are either. 

I think that eventually there will be a Indian club similar to HOG that would work closely with the company to support riders and promote the brand. We have time to plan and think about the options and this site is a great place to discuss the issues.  I have nothing against the VOG and other forums, but The Chief Forum is the only forum that is dedicated to the new Indian only and we should support this forum.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 26, 2013, 08:24:56 PM

... but The Chief Forum is the only forum that is dedicated to the new Indian only and we should support this forum.

Indeed. This forum has been a great source of information for new owners. Thanks to all that contribute here.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Matt on November 26, 2013, 10:10:32 PM
A ton of good dialogue coming from you guys... thanks for the input.

While I believe it is important to honor tradition and history, we are all here for one purpose. We love Indian motorcycles. I tend to side with 2Cool on this one, segmenting out the group for the purpose of making a special "club" for 1901 owners would alienate people... The forum is setup for people to exchange info, research mods and performance upgrades, and help people find friends to ride with. We have had a lot of great conversations started already and I for one wouldnt want to see anything happen to it.

But, we also know that this site is generated based on member input, so if we want to do something, we surely can do it. Just let us know how ya feel and we can work out some details.

Matt
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cowboy on November 27, 2013, 12:04:52 AM
I agree with a lot of what mototwin has to say. I myself joined this site for two equally important reasons: (1) to share opinions and ideas on riding and maintaining my new Indian, and (2) to have a friendly atmosphere to spend a few quiet moments in the evening.  I think that everyone would agree that all of the members of this site should be equally invited to all corners of the site and that no group within the membership should try to set themselves apart from the rest.  However, I felt that the 1901 group was only trying to find common ground with other 1901 members and not trying to isolate themselves from other future Indian members.  Nevertheless, if the other members of this site believe that a 1901 group within the membership is not good for this site, then I would guess that a simple request to the organizers of the 1901 group to drop the idea is all that it would take to end the stress.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Hey Yu on November 27, 2013, 01:57:39 AM
I agree with a lot of what mototwin has to say. I myself joined this site for two equally important reasons: (1) to share opinions and ideas on riding and maintaining my new Indian, and (2) to have a friendly atmosphere to spend a few quiet moments in the evening.  I think that everyone would agree that all of the members of this site should be equally invited to all corners of the site and that no group within the membership should try to set themselves apart from the rest.  However, I felt that the 1901 group was only trying to find common ground with other 1901 members and not trying to isolate themselves from other future Indian members.  Nevertheless, if the other members of this site believe that a 1901 group within the membership is not good for this site, then I would guess that a simple request to the organizers of the 1901 group to drop the idea is all that it would take to end the stress.

Or have a thread/forum set up specifically for the 1901 owners.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on November 27, 2013, 02:17:51 AM
I ain't on-board with 2cool on this one at all.  If we want to organize the original 1901 members than we should have the freedom without prejudice or interference to do so.  That being said I will support recognition of the original 1901's within a larger organization if that will appease dissension and or any possible "alleged" alienation of future members  :o 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jimbo on November 27, 2013, 02:31:55 AM
Hi Guys,

As a poor Southern Hemisphere resident, who's not going to see his new Indian before probably February next year, let alone be in the first 1901, I'd be slightly put out if I was not entitled to join in!

Someone already suggested the IIRA - if you want to define it even more; why make it a TS111 Club?  Still have the bike's number as your membership number to identify those individuals who've obviously been waiting the longest, but that way we all get to feel the love!

Just a thought!

Jimbo
Oz   :)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jimmcapp on November 27, 2013, 02:51:52 AM
I don't have any problem with the people who bought the first bikes wanting to set up a registry, club or anything else. Without the people who took the plunge right off the bat we wouldn't be seeing any future Indians coming from Polaris.
I'd be right in there myself if the stars were lined up right.
In the end I think it's all about inclusion on this forum and I haven't seen any evidence that any Star-Belly Sneetches are trying to put themselves above anybody else. I think the patch idea is kinda cool and if we can help out any Indian riders or enthusiasts through this forum I'm all for it.


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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 27, 2013, 04:52:48 AM
I'm coming from the Harley CVO world where we do have separate sections on forums and 2 different CVO specific forums I understand it somewhat why folks would want a separate place,HOWEVER, there are many things very different with those bikes than the mere production line Harleys which warrants separate discussions. That is not the case here. Here we have folks, like myself, that took a chance and purchased a bike before someone else. Some folks put their money down long before they even knew what they were, gambling on them simply because they saw an engine. Others were Johnny come lately that happen to purchase a numbered bike luckily enough to be sitting on the showroom floor. There is absolutely nothing different with the first 1901 and the bike with 1902 as the ending number of the VIN. I can see a registry of the numbered bike, but there is little else special about them that would warrant a separate forum or even section. Hell we could be the suckers, like others before us that had faith in a company that was born in Springfield.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MotoRace on November 27, 2013, 07:05:26 AM
So if I am interpreting the overall views of the members (at least the ones that have chimed in so far), this is what I have deciphered:


I will put a few options up to vote just to provide some additional insight.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Injun Ed on November 27, 2013, 07:32:53 AM
What I like about Forums, is that it brings people (male and female) from all over the world, who have a common interest, together.

What some are proposing is elitist and will cause a rift within this forum. I for one, don't want to be part of a forum where a minority feel they're "special" and need their own "clubhouse"

Besides, what are you going to chat about? your bikes are the same as ours!!!

This forum seems like a great place to hang out but I've not yet invested enough time to be attached so do as you all feel is best.

I really don't mean to piss anybody off and won't enter this discussion any further.

I feel the integrity of this forum is at risk and as a member have a duty to say so.

Maybe, as with chiefton1400 you could put the number of your bike along your name.

And as I mentioned in another post, the first 1901 is not for all countries. Pretty sure it's only for the US.

Eddie
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 27, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
So if I am interpreting the overall views of the members (at least the ones that have chimed in so far), this is what I have deciphered:

  • There is no need for a separate section of the forum since the bikes are exactly the same and there is a limited number.
  • Those that did take the early plunge would still like to pursue a patch (which by all means nobody is preventing), but seem to agree that a separate section on the forum is not necessary.  A badge on the site identifying 1901 club members, almost like a founding member badge like I have seen on other sites.
  • The idea of a registry is appealing regardless of what your number is.



I'm with MotoRace on this, I don't see the need for a separate section on this site for 1901 owners we're no more special than anyone else. As far as Johnny come lately's, anyone that took the leap of faith in the new Indians whether or not you put a deposit down before Sturgis or you just walked in and bought a numbered bike this week we are among the first to try out the new Indians. Now in another 5 to 10 years when the true Johnny come lately's jump in after the bike has proven itself it would be nice to have a patch saying you were crazy enough about these bikes to jump in so early.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cowboy on November 27, 2013, 12:20:39 PM
So if I am interpreting the overall views of the members (at least the ones that have chimed in so far), this is what I have deciphered:

  • There is no need for a separate section of the forum since the bikes are exactly the same and there is a limited number.
  • Those that did take the early plunge would still like to pursue a patch (which by all means nobody is preventing), but seem to agree that a separate section on the forum is not necessary.  A badge on the site identifying 1901 club members, almost like a founding member badge like I have seen on other sites.
  • The idea of a registry is appealing regardless of what your number is.

I will put a few options up to vote just to provide some additional insight.

I agree with MotoRace and mototwin, and I will also not be in favor of anything that is divisive or elitist, but I also do not think that anyone is trying to go that direction.  Injun Ed, thank you for alerting everyone to your concern, but if we keep this as MotoRace has so well termed it, more of a "founding member" list, then I believe that your concerns will not manifest themselves.  I know I would hate to lose you in our membership.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Cobrafreak on November 27, 2013, 01:07:02 PM
My .02 cents. The people at Indian Motorcycle club of America won't even acknowledge any Indian after 1953. How does this make me feel? Irritated and angry. Nothing but harm will come if inclusatory  policies happen. We should all be family.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: littlejim on November 27, 2013, 02:44:21 PM
I agree with MotoRace and others all numbers should be together would be nice to see how many was produced after your number
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 27, 2013, 03:49:36 PM
Mototwin, you seemed to take my Johnny come lately negatively. Wasn't meant that way. There is nothing special to the first 1901 other than the VIN, a badge on the horn and a welcome kit from Indian.

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Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 28, 2013, 11:00:20 AM
LabRat,

Sorry if it seemed like I took it negatively, I only wanted to point out that anyone buying a new Indian whether they got on the list months ago or just walked in yesterday are all among the first to believe enough in the new bike to take the leap of faith.

I love what Polaris has done producing a industry leading motorcycle and personally will do anything I can do to have this bike succeed. Every time someone someone stops me to ask about the new Indian (and that is often) I always take the time to tell them about the features that make the bike so special and how much I like it.

I can't wait until Indian delivers number 19,001 and I hope its in 2014.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jack Ahearn on November 28, 2013, 11:21:37 AM
I would think that some of the original owners will be buying the 2015 2-tone models.Would that mean elite status is now revoked.Hell no.If anything it means they should be commended for staying true to the tribe.A member of the tribe,be it one year or ten or in this state or another is welcome to the tribe.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Nascen on November 28, 2013, 07:39:50 PM
Well said Jack
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: spider on November 28, 2013, 10:05:31 PM
The "Chief Motorcycle Forum" is a " model specific " forum so now how will the Scout owners react ? Maby they will cry foul if you don't change the title or do you set up a " sub forum " so they also feel welcome ?
I say leave this forum the way it was set up, if people do not want to stay they are free to leave.
This is a place where all can come and play and a 1901 club will most definitely irk some owners with higher numbers so I think they need to be separate things.

A 1901 club is not a bad thing IMO but I don't believe there is a need for a separate " sub forum " here.

I am a big boy and I can play in many different forums if I choose to.

I'm thinking what Bill is trying to do set up a registry and possibly a meet in the future, i'm ok with that. Maby bringing this here seems like the wrong place at the wrong time. 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 29, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
The "Chief Motorcycle Forum" is a " model specific " forum so now how will the Scout owners react ? Maby they will cry foul if you don't change the title or do you set up a " sub forum " so they also feel welcome ?
...

Interesting question.
As I see it, as it stands now this forum is directed to enthusiasts of the new Spirit Lake Indians, although others are certainly welcome.
I would hope that any future Indian models would also be welcome here.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on November 29, 2013, 09:27:52 AM
I'm with K2V2, I think this forum should represent the new Spirit Lake Indians because they are different than any of the previous Indians manufactured to date and have their own specific details and issues. However, we shouldn't exclude anyone from participating on this forum and should welcome all Indian owners past and present. As far as a name change, I don't think the new Scout owners, when they come, would object to the current name.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: spider on November 29, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
The "Chief Motorcycle Forum" is a " model specific " forum so now how will the Scout owners react ? Maby they will cry foul if you don't change the title or do you set up a " sub forum " so they also feel welcome ?
...

Interesting question.
As I see it, as it stands now this forum is directed to enthusiasts of the new Spirit Lake Indians, although others are certainly welcome.
I would hope that any future Indian models would also be welcome here.

Agree.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: spider on November 29, 2013, 06:27:51 PM
I'm with K2V2, I think this forum should represent the new Spirit Lake Indians because they are different than any of the previous Indians manufactured to date and have their own specific details and issues. However, we shouldn't exclude anyone from participating on this forum and should welcome all Indian owners past and present. As far as a name change, I don't think the new Scout owners, when they come, would object to the current name.

The name change was just thrown out there because of another forum I am a member of some actually thought it would be a good idea to change something that need not be changed.
As far as others welcome here I hope this forum keeps its doors wide open.
Maby in the future there could be sub forums like other places I've been, like a Scout forum and so on.

Back to the 1901 Club, I don't feel this forum here should need to promote or support such a club but if and when this proposed club gets going I will most likely join but also remain a member here. Two separate things IMO.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Jeff872 on November 29, 2013, 07:18:47 PM
I bought my Red Vintage badge #872 from Vern Eide Indian of Sioux Falls. My name is Jeff Jolliff and I live in Mitchell,SD
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 48redchief on November 30, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
Red Vintage #1757. Purchased at Indian Victory Charlotte, NC. I live in Roanoke, VA. Contact me through this site.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 64camo on December 01, 2013, 08:48:22 AM
Blue Vintage #1286
Summerville SC
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on December 01, 2013, 11:24:41 AM
I bought my Red Vintage badge #872 from Vern Eide Indian of Sioux Falls. My name is Jeff Jolliff and I live in Mitchell,SD

Welcome Jeff!  It's great to see SD guys on the site.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: fang on December 01, 2013, 01:36:03 PM
2014 Chief Classic #1497 in Thunder Black. Purchased in Ocala, FL. Currently residing on the Nature Coast of FL.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Indian Vet on December 03, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
Red Vintage #724.  Leesville, Louisiana.  Can contact via this forum, very interested in 1901 club
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: indimike14 on December 16, 2013, 03:02:36 AM
Black Classic #1564, Kingman, Arizona  , this forum 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Running Bare on December 16, 2013, 05:20:10 AM
#958 Black Chieftain. Michigan. Thanks.
Title: PATCHES: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: fang on December 17, 2013, 11:19:24 PM
1901 Patches is a FABULOUS idea1 but sorry, the patches I've seen so far are not so.... ah.... good. IMHO.... THE "1901 patch" should be a duplicate of the badge on the horn cover. I'll speak to my patch lady and see what she can come up with...... her work is very professional...... to be continued....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: David F. on December 19, 2013, 01:19:28 AM
Blue Chieftain #1343  Corvallis, OR Contact via this forum
Title: Re: PATCHES: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: mototwin on December 19, 2013, 10:41:09 AM
1901 Patches is a FABULOUS idea1 but sorry, the patches I've seen so far are not so.... ah.... good. IMHO.... THE "1901 patch" should be a duplicate of the badge on the horn cover. I'll speak to my patch lady and see what she can come up with...... her work is very professional...... to be continued....

Fang,

Sorry, but from all the input we received the Indian head design was the moist popular. We tried to include what most people wanted on the patch, number, color, model and the overall design. It seems that you are campaigning for the Horn Patch on different threads here, but after considerable work had already been done on what most on this forum wanted. Please keep the discussion on the thread "1901 Patch" so that everyone can see your post and comment on the patch design.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: WillShootem on December 20, 2013, 10:26:51 AM
Blue Vintage, #1379. Springfield, Oregon.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Billy on December 20, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
Red Chief Classic #1037.  Bonnie Scotland.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Vintage423 on December 22, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
Vintage, 423, Black, Buford, Georgia
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Groovechampion on December 23, 2013, 02:59:08 AM
Red Chief Classic #1037.  Bonnie Scotland.
Welcome Billy, did you get your bike in Perth?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Greg Sutter on November 07, 2014, 01:29:02 PM
How do I order one of the 1901 numbered bikes patch
Greg Sutter #1880
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: fang on November 08, 2014, 09:26:49 AM
Hey Greg, my patch lady still makes them for us. Shoot me an email and I'll get you in. Thanks.
Howlingbear at gmail dotcom
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: tumbras on November 08, 2014, 10:28:01 PM
Hey Greg, my patch lady still makes them for us. Shoot me an email and I'll get you in. Thanks.
Howlingbear at gmail dotcom
has there been any interest in making a somewhat similar latch for those of us who have bikes after the first 1901?.. obviously youd have to change the wording from first to 2014 or something with our serial numbers down at bottom. if so..id love a patch for us that were first yearers..just beyond the first 1901.
Title: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Hwheeler73 on November 08, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Jesse, # 386, Springfield Blue Chieftain. It's now customized though. Springfield, MO
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/e3f11d13e63f3ca6b2bb238b71f081f7.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/687f113c6a28919034fda35e320427fe.jpg)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 2Cool on November 09, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
Do the bikes numbered after the first 1901 actually count?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 09, 2014, 11:05:42 AM
In a kinder and gentler world, when you name one winner, then everyone else is a loser.

Indian has sort of created a lot of losers here on this whole numbering thing.
We, the non-numbered, are being discriminated against.

Ok, Indian Motorcycle did send me a $250 gift certificate to keep my mouth shut about this....so...

Y'all with the "non-numbered" bikes didn't hear this from me ....but I bet that if you called the Indian Customer Service Hot line....I bet you could get a $250 gift certificate, redeemable at you local Harbor Freight Tool store. Ya know, in lieu of the tool kit that you also never got.

You didn't hear this from me though....don't be a name dropper when you get them on the line....do like I did, play stupid.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 2Cool on November 09, 2014, 11:46:26 AM
I agree, the numbered thing is a joke, what matters is that you ride an Indian.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: VistaChief on November 09, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
I think this whole thing about badging the first 1901 is totally lame as well. But if I had one I would think it's just about the coolest thing ever.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Devorider on November 09, 2014, 04:45:59 PM

Red Chieftain, #835, Nordland, WA, I can be reached on this site.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 09, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
I think this whole thing about badging the first 1901 is totally lame as well. But if I had one I would think it's just about the coolest thing ever.

The numbering is a nice little bonus for being an early adopter instead of a Johnny-come-lately.  :P

933
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: VistaChief on November 09, 2014, 05:59:23 PM
I think this whole thing about badging the first 1901 is totally lame as well. But if I had one I would think it's just about the coolest thing ever.

The numbering is a nice little bonus for being an early adopter instead of a Johnny-come-lately.  :P

933
I'm not as good at online humor as I'd like to be...what I really mean is that it's cool and I would love to have a numbered bike.

Just having a 14 is cool in itself...
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 09, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
I think this whole thing about badging the first 1901 is totally lame as well. But if I had one I would think it's just about the coolest thing ever.

The numbering is a nice little bonus for being an early adopter instead of a Johnny-come-lately.  :P

933
I'm not as good at online humor as I'd like to be...what I really mean is that it's cool and I would love to have a numbered bike.

Just having a 14 is cool in itself...

Understood and agreed! I don't think anything less of an Indian that's numbered above 1901. We're ALL cool!  8)
BTW, we just saw number 1900 today. Cool.  8)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Kruisin on November 09, 2014, 09:38:06 PM
met up with 3 Goldwing riders a few weeks back and was surprised they knew everything about the new Indians. They had test ridden them at a dealer demo day. One even commented on mine being a numbered bike!

They all were excited to see the Scout model being introduced to the line.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MAP on November 09, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
How do I order one of the 1901 numbered bikes patch
Greg Sutter #1880

Welcome to the forum Greg.

Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: MAP on November 09, 2014, 10:21:54 PM
Is there anyone out there who really wanted to buy a new 2014 Indian Chief Classic in Blue and are now sorry they did not buy one? They are not making the blue Classic in 2015. If this sounds like you, and you wouldn't mind coming to Madison, Wisconsin, they have a nice customized 2014 blue classic still for sale - see photo of custom # 148.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: 802Flier on November 10, 2014, 02:20:19 AM
Personally, I'm happy to have a numbered bike.  I don't give a rat's butt if it only ever means anything to me.  Why would anyone want to waste their time getting pissy about it? 

I felt a bit like a pioneer, getting out there and ordering my bike before I'd seen them.  I'm guessing I got somewhere between the second to fifth one in this country.  I could have waited 1, 2, 5 years, or a lifetime to watch and see how they stood the test of time, but I can tell you right now that the past 13 months having this bike has been awesome.  Yeah a couple of glitches along the way, but I didn't expect perfection right out of the gate and it has more than lived up to my expectations.

I admire Polaris for finding ways to honour this great and storied heritage, whether it be through innovation, style, or simply recognizing that the number 1901 is special to the Indian brand and finding a novel way to salute that.  The brand has soul.  The bikes, too, have soul, in my opinion.  Yeah, yeah, I know, they're just a hunk of metal, anyone can have one, etc., etc. 
I get way more out of my Indian than that, so I won't be coerced into that war of words.

Where I grew up (Canadians prairies - so flat you can stand on a bucket and see the back of your own head), I only ever saw one Harley-Davidson before I was 15 years old.  It was a borrowed Electra-Glide my Dad brought home in about 1961, when I was six.  He took me for a short ride and motorcycles instantly became a life-long passion, much more so than airplanes, which I grew up with. There was a certain amount of reverence for Harley, but the mystique of Indian was far greater.  For years I  dreamed of just seeing, not to mention owning an Indian.  Where I lived, the odds of actually seeing one were about the same as sighting a Sasquatch.  I was 51 years old when I first saw an Indian in person (It took a trip to Sturgis) and in my world it was like spotting the holy grail of motorcycles.
I'm not drinking the Polaris Kool-Aid here, just happy that someone has invested heart and soul into Indian motorcycles.  They've got a ways to go with customer service, dealer network, blah, blah, blah, but I think they're only going to get better at the details.  If they want to thank me by badging my bike, sending me a clock, or a hundred bucks there and there, have at 'er hoss.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 10, 2014, 06:10:15 AM
I happen to live in an old historic neighborhood that pre-dates the War of Northern Aggression.
There is a Historical Society here that tells people what color they can paint their homes and even when to paint their homes.

These are the same considerations that should have been placed on the first 1901 Indians. Ya know, in order to preserve their historical value. No just casually peeling off those factory installed warning stickers. No casual rides that pile up miles and diminish historical relevance. Why, I've even heard rumors which indicate that some have actually re-painted these collectables with two tone paint jobs.....how plebeian.

These special bikes should have went directly to museums where they could be enshrined with proper dignity.

(just kidding) (don't get a knot jerked up in your britches)(not pissing, just poking)(honest)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Swamp Indian on November 10, 2014, 06:11:24 AM
First time I've owned an Indian and very glad I decided to buy a 2014 Indian. It's a little piece of history I purchased. It will have its quirks but let's be honest all motorcycle have their own little quirks. We purchase them because that's what we want.
2014 Chieftain #1544 Black!
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: lvredman on November 10, 2014, 09:52:49 AM
For me this was my first bike ever.  I didnt get a numbered bike not because i didnt want one but because my life, wife, and finances were not quite in line with the moon to make it happen.  For those of you who got numbered bikes I'm really happy for you, would love to ride with you and glad you got a patch to show it off.  That said, i think the badge on the horn cover could have been better.  I'm not numbered so it does not affect me. 
Not sure why its so important to have your own sub group within the family though.  There is already family fued over Spirit Lakee or Kings Mtn or Gillroy do we really need another seperation?  Maybe we need patches for type of oil we use or spokes or non spokes.  Have all the patches you want, i just want to ride.
Im too old to care about the sub group and started riding too late in life to get caught up in it.  The way I see it it got about 20 years of riding to make up for so if you want to go for a ride with a fat ugly Indian on a Red Chieftain, kickstand up an hour br
before first light Monday thu Friday and anytime on Saturday and Sunday morning.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Richg on November 10, 2014, 10:42:03 AM
Happened to go by dealer when they received a  Back Vintage #1377 in trade for a new Chieftain. Bought it. Could not be happier. Peel-off stickers already gone. Since bike's pristine condition had already been violated... decided to just go ahead and ride the hell out of the damn thing. See ya!!
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Woodcarver on November 10, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
If this sounds like you, and you wouldn't mind coming to Madison, Wisconsin, they have a nice customized 2014 blue classic still for sale - see photo of custom # 148.
As an FYI the forum, while we're on the subject, there are also a couple of "First 1901" Indians on the showroom floor in Terrebonne, QC.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 10, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
For me this was my first bike ever.  I didnt get a numbered bike not because i didnt want one but because my life, wife, and finances were not quite in line with the moon to make it happen.  For those of you who got numbered bikes I'm really happy for you, would love to ride with you and glad you got a patch to show it off.  That said, i think the badge on the horn cover could have been better.  I'm not numbered so it does not affect me. 
Not sure why its so important to have your own sub group within the family though.  There is already family fued over Spirit Lakee or Kings Mtn or Gillroy do we really need another seperation?  Maybe we need patches for type of oil we use or spokes or non spokes.  Have all the patches you want, i just want to ride.
Im too old to care about the sub group and started riding too late in life to get caught up in it.  The way I see it it got about 20 years of riding to make up for so if you want to go for a ride with a fat ugly Indian on a Red Chieftain, kickstand up an hour br
before first light Monday thu Friday and anytime on Saturday and Sunday morning.

I got this idea that I want to pass by you for a reading.....

Conceptualize this.......S.U.C.

(S)ociety
of
(U)numbered
(C)hiefs

A knothead, such as myself, could start a thread announcing S.U.C. to the world.
Anyone who wanted to join could then post to the thread and their post number would then become their SUC number for eternity.
I don't think we would have to limit this to the first 1901 posters and I am open to suggestions on banning those with NUMBERED Chiefs...but I would hate to do that. Everyone could have a SUC Number and of course, low numbers are always more prestigious.

Since this is my idea, I will post the first two posts which would save SUC #1 for the Big Chief In The Sky.
By default, I would be SUC #2 with the second post to the thread.

What do you think?
Do you think there would be any interest in having your very own exclusive SUC Number?     
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 11, 2014, 05:33:00 AM
Huh?
Not exactly an overwhelming response.

Ok, I understand, no patch=no club.
No patch=no dice.

But everyone is doing the whole club thing to the point that another patch just becomes wallpaper.

Dig this.....
Laminated Wallet Cards.
We could have a template where you could enter your name and SUC Number and print your own wallet card.
I'm not worried about fraud as we would do this on the honor system.

I think I have an e-mail from Indian in my in-box but I'm afraid to open it. I don't want to find out about a cease and desist order until I get everyone emotionally committed to this project. 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 11, 2014, 05:54:35 AM
S.U.C. will hold it's very first, initial start up, brainstorming session tonight 11/11/14 at the notorious Chickie Wah Wah Club in New Orleans

Here is a link to learn all about Chickie Wah-Wah Club.

http://www.chickiewahwah.com/

We will probably elect officers tonight, so you don't want to miss out.

Please RSVP
so I can set up the free open bar with oyster buffet.
We will also be giving out our exclusive Vest Pen....everyone does pins....we have Pens.

I'm looking forward to a big turn out tonight so I went head on and reserved the entire VIP area of the club.
See you tonight!!!!!
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Kruisin on November 11, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
Just checked out the Chickie Wah Wah link. The menu looks awesome! Afraid I can't make the meeting but I sure could use another pin.......I mean pen!
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: lvredman on November 11, 2014, 08:43:07 AM
Put me down for 1 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Woodcarver on November 11, 2014, 08:46:32 AM
Please RSVP
so I can set up the free open bar with oyster buffet.
We will also be giving out our exclusive Vest Pen....everyone does pins....we have Pens.

I'm looking forward to a big turn out tonight so I went head on and reserved the entire VIP area of the club.
See you tonight!!!!!
Your links to N.O.L.A. entertainment are some of the most interesting I've run across. Shame I can't take you up on your invitation but in these parts, this week we're having our first major winter storm of the season and while my Chief Vintage is an excellent bike, I expect that it would do rather poorly in snow and on ice...
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 12, 2014, 05:44:30 AM
I just wanted to thank everyone who showed up for the first SUC meeting last night.

We had a great time while still accomplishing the laying of the essential groundwork for a thriving organization.

As an example, we passed a lot of exclusionary language into place.
After all, isn't excluding people at the same time you are kicking others out....man, that's what it's all about?

Like for example, we have this one rule that states that anyone who rides or owns a Red Chief can not be an office holder.

Another rule states that Black Chiefs will always lead the pack when we have a group ride. But only on the outbound leg. On the inbound leg then Blue Chiefs will lead. Not very promising for us Red Chief owners...to say the least.

As a consolation prize the Red Chief owners were successful in their nomination of our SUC Song. This song will be played at all club functions....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjoVtSjcBGA

As with all the music links that I post, I urge you to use some high quality speakers or headphones for full Hi-Fi enjoyment.

With this essential groundwork laid, we began to critique each other, ya know...in a purely constructive manner. Sort of like the airing of grievances. We all walked out with a better understanding of just what a unique group we really are.

Ok, no group hugs, but we did all exchange the Super Secret S.U.C. Handshake. This is on the entrance exam, so pay attention....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4aIf8Gb4fM

Those of you who signed up for our Cyber Newsletter already know about our next membership drive meeting. To those of you who don't know?...that's the way we want it.

 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 12, 2014, 06:44:56 AM
I can't believe I just watched the whole handshake video oy vey
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: RedCloud on November 12, 2014, 08:02:26 AM
I think the numbered bikes were a great idea/ premonition buy Polaris, and pretty cool. I don't have a numbered bike but just having a Indian is great to me because I never thought I would own one.  I'm still on the honeymoon with mine and it was love at first sight.
BD you are so funny LMAO. And I have to agree about the red not leading the ride because that would mean we would have to slow down so the pack could keep up. So I think that the reds should be appointed "Indian road scouts" since we are always so far ahead all the time. You know we could get to the bar stop and have the cold beer ready when the pack finally arrives . How's that sound BD. LOL
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 12, 2014, 08:19:46 AM
It was a perfect marketing ploy to get people to buy a first year bike. They needed something to build momentum in the relaunch of Indian. It worked for me to get me off the dime. I got a numbered bike, a 5 year warranty (won't debate it's value) and now that they have killed the color, a solid blue bike. To me it has no value other than it got me to make a decision probably sooner than I would have under normal conditions.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: fang on November 12, 2014, 09:01:38 AM
Dear forum moderator,
Since it has become obvious (to us Chief/Scout owners that live down south and get to ride our awesome Indians all year) that our northern tribe members are already suffering from "Parkedmyindianforthewinteritis". The symptoms include boredom, spending too much time online, hijacking forum threads with nonsensical conversations thoroughly unrelated to topic headings posted in, as well as other unreported abnormalities. Possibly, could you help these poor souls by opening up an exclusive sub forum for them to post in? this isolation, like the Ebola isolation protocol, would make it easy for them to communicate amongst themselves, discussing their symptoms and potential cures, as well as other thus unrevealed topics. It would also thoroughly protect the rest of us, who are running the miles up on our odometers, from possible infection. It will also, and most importantly, protect us from losing valuable genuine leather (whether it be brown, black or some ever changing color) seat time when we find we must needlessly browse page through page on the the present forum topics looking for any scarce snippet of pertinent information. It would also provide a "window" for us southern tribe members to safely peek in at our unfortunately inflicted northern members, just to make sure they still have retained their sanity, and their condition hasn't progressed to stage 4, where they bundle up in their snowmobile suits, braving their frozen garage spaces, removing the war bonnet donned weatherproof bike covers and perching on the battery tendered bikes, making vroom, vroom sounds through their chattering teeth and bluish lips. I know, its a pitiful sight, but we need to have a secure place to go to monitor the progress of our suffering brothers of the wind. Rumor has it that there is a cure coming, but until the CDC can confirm it, they must be monitored closely, but safely. Actually, rumor has it they have two cures under investigation. One is aptly referred to as "springtime", but the more promising and expedient possibly can only be found by packing the shiny frozen two wheelers up in a large truck, mapping out a route with any odd number highway and heading south. Mr. Forum moderator, I sincerely thank you for your consideration and any remediation you can offer. Meantime to our frozen brothers, here is a positive thought to possibly help alleviate your intense suffering.... we down yonder tribe members are racking up the miles on our bikes, someday making your beautiful Indian motorcycles worth so much more wampum than ours, as you will have the only low mileage bikes.
Stay strong my brothers.... Stay strong.  Fang out.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: StewartS on November 12, 2014, 11:06:27 AM
I don't get to the site as often as I would like, but I am a proud owner of #160 Springfield Blue Classic.  Decked out with all black leather Bags, seats and back rests.  I love the bike!

It being numbered and Blue was a big factor in buying the Bike.  The 5 Year warranty just helped seal the deal.  I bought my bike to Ride not show, so it is showing it's use and wear and tear, 10,000 miles and growing.  To Indians credit EVERY little issue I have had they have fixed (except one)  So I am very happy with the Bike and the companies support.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: VistaChief on November 12, 2014, 01:14:48 PM
I can't believe I just watched the whole handshake video oy vey
Yeah, I want those minutes back :-[
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 12, 2014, 02:29:13 PM
IF YOU GLOAT while we suffer through this horrible disease, you will be put into a timeout. Continue to taunt us and more extreme measures will have to be taken, the first of which will be a week long writing course for beginning authors hosted by Big Daddy. This will also include mandatory watching of all the videos he posts with follow-up posts explaining to us all what you learned from those videos. Do not push us or we will have to move to the next phase of punishment.



Dear forum moderator,
Since it has become obvious (to us Chief/Scout owners that live down south and get to ride our awesome Indians all year) that our northern tribe members are already suffering from "Parkedmyindianforthewinteritis". The symptoms include boredom, spending too much time online, hijacking forum threads with nonsensical conversations thoroughly unrelated to topic headings posted in, as well as other unreported abnormalities. Possibly, could you help these poor souls by opening up an exclusive sub forum for them to post in? this isolation, like the Ebola isolation protocol, would make it easy for them to communicate amongst themselves, discussing their symptoms and potential cures, as well as other thus unrevealed topics. It would also thoroughly protect the rest of us, who are running the miles up on our odometers, from possible infection. It will also, and most importantly, protect us from losing valuable genuine leather (whether it be brown, black or some ever changing color) seat time when we find we must needlessly browse page through page on the the present forum topics looking for any scarce snippet of pertinent information. It would also provide a "window" for us southern tribe members to safely peek in at our unfortunately inflicted northern members, just to make sure they still have retained their sanity, and their condition hasn't progressed to stage 4, where they bundle up in their snowmobile suits, braving their frozen garage spaces, removing the war bonnet donned weatherproof bike covers and perching on the battery tendered bikes, making vroom, vroom sounds through their chattering teeth and bluish lips. I know, its a pitiful sight, but we need to have a secure place to go to monitor the progress of our suffering brothers of the wind. Rumor has it that there is a cure coming, but until the CDC can confirm it, they must be monitored closely, but safely. Actually, rumor has it they have two cures under investigation. One is aptly referred to as "springtime", but the more promising and expedient possibly can only be found by packing the shiny frozen two wheelers up in a large truck, mapping out a route with any odd number highway and heading south. Mr. Forum moderator, I sincerely thank you for your consideration and any remediation you can offer. Meantime to our frozen brothers, here is a positive thought to possibly help alleviate your intense suffering.... we down yonder tribe members are racking up the miles on our bikes, someday making your beautiful Indian motorcycles worth so much more wampum than ours, as you will have the only low mileage bikes.
Stay strong my brothers.... Stay strong.  Fang out.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: lvredman on November 12, 2014, 07:01:18 PM
Do we have a patch for that?
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: rjwronbo1 on November 12, 2014, 07:27:51 PM
I also think it's a bit silly to have numbered bikes..... but then... think about it the early adopters were the ones that showed real faith in the brand so we should get something to show for it.  I have #277 red Indian Chieftain and I think it's really a cool thing and I am proud of it.  In the end it only matters to me. 
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Woodcarver on November 12, 2014, 07:49:20 PM
I also think it's a bit silly to have numbered bikes.....
All bikes are numbered.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Big Daddy on November 13, 2014, 04:35:22 AM
I also think it's a bit silly to have numbered bikes.....
All bikes are numbered.

Huh....yeah, I guess you are right.
Maybe this whole S.U.C. thing is a flawed concept?

Listen to what this guy says about it.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

Now that guy knows how to take a beating.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 13, 2014, 07:12:42 AM
In seriousness, we did have one guy that proposed a separate "exclusive" section for a 1901 club. That got nixed REAL FAST by virtually everyone around here at the time. Pretty sure he left us in a huff and then went to VOG.net
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: K2V2 on November 13, 2014, 07:22:18 AM
In seriousness, we did have one guy that proposed a separate "exclusive" section for a 1901 club. That got nixed REAL FAST by virtually everyone around here at the time. Pretty sure he left us in a huff and then went to VOG.net

Yeah, that was some funny stuff.  8)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: fang on November 13, 2014, 08:45:02 AM
please.... No.... uncle..... I give.... Not the video punishment..... I am so sorry.... I plead insanity from having to wait until noon, when it warmed up to optimum riding temperature...77 degrees... The three hour wait to ride must have effected my sanity.... Please forgive me.... I guess I just had too much free time on my hands....

WIF YOU GLOAT while we suffer through this horrible disease, you will be put into a timeout. Continue to taunt us and more extreme measures will have to be taken, the first of which will be a week long writing course for beginning authors hosted by Big Daddy. This will also include mandatory watching of all the videos he posts with follow-up posts explaining to us all what you learned from those videos. Do not push us or we will have to move to the next phase of punishment.



Dear forum moderator,
Since it has become obvious (to us Chief/Scout owners that live down south and get to ride our awesome Indians all year) that our northern tribe members are already suffering from "Parkedmyindianforthewinteritis". The symptoms include boredom, spending too much time online, hijacking forum threads with nonsensical conversations thoroughly unrelated to topic headings posted in, as well as other unreported abnormalities. Possibly, could you help these poor souls by opening up an exclusive sub forum for them to post in? this isolation, like the Ebola isolation protocol, would make it easy for them to communicate amongst themselves, discussing their symptoms and potential cures, as well as other thus unrevealed topics. It would also thoroughly protect the rest of us, who are running the miles up on our odometers, from possible infection. It will also, and most importantly, protect us from losing valuable genuine leather (whether it be brown, black or some ever changing color) seat time when we find we must needlessly browse page through page on the the present forum topics looking for any scarce snippet of pertinent information. It would also provide a "window" for us southern tribe members to safely peek in at our unfortunately inflicted northern members, just to make sure they still have retained their sanity, and their condition hasn't progressed to stage 4, where they bundle up in their snowmobile suits, braving their frozen garage spaces, removing the war bonnet donned weatherproof bike covers and perching on the battery tendered bikes, making vroom, vroom sounds through their chattering teeth and bluish lips. I know, its a pitiful sight, but we need to have a secure place to go to monitor the progress of our suffering brothers of the wind. Rumor has it that there is a cure coming, but until the CDC can confirm it, they must be monitored closely, but safely. Actually, rumor has it they have two cures under investigation. One is aptly referred to as "springtime", but the more promising and expedient possibly can only be found by packing the shiny frozen two wheelers up in a large truck, mapping out a route with any odd number highway and heading south. Mr. Forum moderator, I sincerely thank you for your consideration and any remediation you can offer. Meantime to our frozen brothers, here is a positive thought to possibly help alleviate your intense suffering.... we down yonder tribe members are racking up the miles on our bikes, someday making your beautiful Indian motorcycles worth so much more wampum than ours, as you will have the only low mileage bikes.
Stay strong my brothers.... Stay strong.  Fang out.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 13, 2014, 09:45:34 AM
Good and let you serve as an example to any upstarts wishing to rub comfortable winter riding in the faces of those up north. The North won once, do we need to do it again?

please.... No.... uncle..... I give.... Not the video punishment..... I am so sorry.... I plead insanity from having to wait until noon, when it warmed up to optimum riding temperature...77 degrees... The three hour wait to ride must have effected my sanity.... Please forgive me.... I guess I just had too much free time on my hands....

WIF YOU GLOAT while we suffer through this horrible disease, you will be put into a timeout. Continue to taunt us and more extreme measures will have to be taken, the first of which will be a week long writing course for beginning authors hosted by Big Daddy. This will also include mandatory watching of all the videos he posts with follow-up posts explaining to us all what you learned from those videos. Do not push us or we will have to move to the next phase of punishment.



Dear forum moderator,
Since it has become obvious (to us Chief/Scout owners that live down south and get to ride our awesome Indians all year) that our northern tribe members are already suffering from "Parkedmyindianforthewinteritis". The symptoms include boredom, spending too much time online, hijacking forum threads with nonsensical conversations thoroughly unrelated to topic headings posted in, as well as other unreported abnormalities. Possibly, could you help these poor souls by opening up an exclusive sub forum for them to post in? this isolation, like the Ebola isolation protocol, would make it easy for them to communicate amongst themselves, discussing their symptoms and potential cures, as well as other thus unrevealed topics. It would also thoroughly protect the rest of us, who are running the miles up on our odometers, from possible infection. It will also, and most importantly, protect us from losing valuable genuine leather (whether it be brown, black or some ever changing color) seat time when we find we must needlessly browse page through page on the the present forum topics looking for any scarce snippet of pertinent information. It would also provide a "window" for us southern tribe members to safely peek in at our unfortunately inflicted northern members, just to make sure they still have retained their sanity, and their condition hasn't progressed to stage 4, where they bundle up in their snowmobile suits, braving their frozen garage spaces, removing the war bonnet donned weatherproof bike covers and perching on the battery tendered bikes, making vroom, vroom sounds through their chattering teeth and bluish lips. I know, its a pitiful sight, but we need to have a secure place to go to monitor the progress of our suffering brothers of the wind. Rumor has it that there is a cure coming, but until the CDC can confirm it, they must be monitored closely, but safely. Actually, rumor has it they have two cures under investigation. One is aptly referred to as "springtime", but the more promising and expedient possibly can only be found by packing the shiny frozen two wheelers up in a large truck, mapping out a route with any odd number highway and heading south. Mr. Forum moderator, I sincerely thank you for your consideration and any remediation you can offer. Meantime to our frozen brothers, here is a positive thought to possibly help alleviate your intense suffering.... we down yonder tribe members are racking up the miles on our bikes, someday making your beautiful Indian motorcycles worth so much more wampum than ours, as you will have the only low mileage bikes.
Stay strong my brothers.... Stay strong.  Fang out.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: Thomas Bohm on November 13, 2014, 09:53:35 AM
Good and let you serve as an example to any upstarts wishing to rub comfortable winter riding in the faces of those up north. The North won once, do we need to do it again?

please.... No.... uncle..... I give.... Not the video punishment..... I am so sorry.... I plead insanity from having to wait until noon, when it warmed up to optimum riding temperature...77 degrees... The three hour wait to ride must have effected my sanity.... Please forgive me.... I guess I just had too much free time on my hands....

WIF YOU GLOAT while we suffer through this horrible disease, you will be put into a timeout. Continue to taunt us and more extreme measures will have to be taken, the first of which will be a week long writing course for beginning authors hosted by Big Daddy. This will also include mandatory watching of all the videos he posts with follow-up posts explaining to us all what you learned from those videos. Do not push us or we will have to move to the next phase of punishment.



Dear forum moderator,
Since it has become obvious (to us Chief/Scout owners that live down south and get to ride our awesome Indians all year) that our northern tribe members are already suffering from "Parkedmyindianforthewinteritis". The symptoms include boredom, spending too much time online, hijacking forum threads with nonsensical conversations thoroughly unrelated to topic headings posted in, as well as other unreported abnormalities. Possibly, could you help these poor souls by opening up an exclusive sub forum for them to post in? this isolation, like the Ebola isolation protocol, would make it easy for them to communicate amongst themselves, discussing their symptoms and potential cures, as well as other thus unrevealed topics. It would also thoroughly protect the rest of us, who are running the miles up on our odometers, from possible infection. It will also, and most importantly, protect us from losing valuable genuine leather (whether it be brown, black or some ever changing color) seat time when we find we must needlessly browse page through page on the the present forum topics looking for any scarce snippet of pertinent information. It would also provide a "window" for us southern tribe members to safely peek in at our unfortunately inflicted northern members, just to make sure they still have retained their sanity, and their condition hasn't progressed to stage 4, where they bundle up in their snowmobile suits, braving their frozen garage spaces, removing the war bonnet donned weatherproof bike covers and perching on the battery tendered bikes, making vroom, vroom sounds through their chattering teeth and bluish lips. I know, its a pitiful sight, but we need to have a secure place to go to monitor the progress of our suffering brothers of the wind. Rumor has it that there is a cure coming, but until the CDC can confirm it, they must be monitored closely, but safely. Actually, rumor has it they have two cures under investigation. One is aptly referred to as "springtime", but the more promising and expedient possibly can only be found by packing the shiny frozen two wheelers up in a large truck, mapping out a route with any odd number highway and heading south. Mr. Forum moderator, I sincerely thank you for your consideration and any remediation you can offer. Meantime to our frozen brothers, here is a positive thought to possibly help alleviate your intense suffering.... we down yonder tribe members are racking up the miles on our bikes, someday making your beautiful Indian motorcycles worth so much more wampum than ours, as you will have the only low mileage bikes.
Stay strong my brothers.... Stay strong.  Fang out.

Yeah...I made the mistake of moving to Virginia...and they are still pissed they lost 150 years ago....

And in order to combat that, they stopped all the clocks back then.....
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: lvredman on November 14, 2014, 07:50:45 AM
I am so sorry you have to suffer the cold but it's not always easy riding to work in 60 degree weather and than suffering through the low 80's on the way home. But we do it, for our wives, our children and our country, we press forward.
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: RickkciR on November 14, 2014, 12:27:42 PM
Do the bikes numbered after the first 1901 actually count?

NO :)
Title: Re: First 1901 Indians from Polaris
Post by: LabRat on November 14, 2014, 04:26:54 PM
Do the bikes numbered after the first 1901 actually count?

NO :)

And if you ask why, you wouldn't understand :)